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IOBA (Independent Online Bookseller Association), joins Marelibri - small

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Android application for Marelibri now available - Dereck

Dereck — Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:45:46 +0100

Like this application, in part for the its features: quick search for the books on Marelibri, marking them as favorites and, in general, to get more information.

[ping] IOBA (Independent Online Bookseller Association), joins Marelibri - Livre rare book, le Bla Bla ...

Livre rare book, le Bla Bla ... — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:56:28 +0100

IOBA.org rejoint Marelibri

Nous sommes fier d'annoncer un nouveau venu parmi les partenaires qui forment Marelibri : IOBA.org. Voir l'annonce sur le blog de Marelibri. IOBA est une association américaine indépendante composée elle aussi de professionnels du livre uniquement. A...

Conditions d'adhésions à Marelibri - antoine Karoubi

antoine Karoubi — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:01:01 +0200

I am very surprised to see that bookstores are a real mafia. D'on't you think that it will be much better that specially private people could sell their books and maybe this way you will have more people who will read in the world. Do you know that those last ten years the profits of the bookstores went down 25% in Europe ? Try to think why !

Do you speak Arab ? Japanese ? Russian ? ... - jitendra Acharya

jitendra Acharya — Sun, 24 May 2009 13:44:34 +0200

I need free ebooks and others for peace,religeous,health etc. i would like to go through the list of books.

Requirements for membership to Marelibri - jan

jan — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:05:43 +0100

i am interested in illustrated books from the early 1900's

Marelibri invites every independent professional site ! - LiedBlogger

LiedBlogger — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:19:25 +0100

BTW: Stichwort "müde" -

auch ein fremdernannter "leadblogger" kann nicht überall sein und muß mal schlafen oder sonst was machen. z.B. über viele neue Ideen nachdenken, Zugfahren ist so anregend, trävellinwisstschermanrähl, Danke, daß Sie unsere Plörre nicht getrunken haben, ist das so schwer einen ordentlichen Espresso zu machen ? Keine Ausrede ist die Geschwindigkeit des Zuges, denn die beeinflußt m.W. nicht den Dampfdruck ...., oder doch ? Immer gepennt in Physik, jetzt rächt sich das ...

Nö, so kriegt Ihr mich nicht. Montag wird wieder alles gelöscht, ätsch.

Bonne nuit à tout le monde,

Christophe

Requirements for membership to Marelibri - Piet Wesselman

Piet Wesselman — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:21:03 +0200

Well, it depends on what you mean by 'membership'. Marelibri is an association of bookselling websites, so the members are those sites.
An individual bookseller who wants to have his books posted on Marelibri will have to apply for membership in one (or more) of the websites participating in Marelibri.
And someone who is interested in using Marelibri to search for books can be a registered user. This is not obligatory, but there are certain advantages for registered users.

Requirements for membership to Marelibri - J.P.Luyendijk

J.P.Luyendijk — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:04:52 +0200

What are the requirements for membership?

Marelibri invites every independent professional site ! - Pascal Chartier

Pascal Chartier — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:10:12 +0200

If books had the words to say it ....

Independence ? What is it ? It is about protecting the freedom of professional bookseller to sell their books without being overtaxed by industrial groups who take advantage of the internet technologies to make profit on the booksellers, that means also a guarantee for the customers to buy their books as cheap as possible. (Further we also can talk about the independence of the foot in its shoes, but it's another debate!)

The bookseller profession is weak ! We can't let it compete freely with industrials and dealers of all kinds : May the best man win! This approach can ony come from a so called ruthless trader who rubs his hand with glee in advance, ready to pick up anything he can get....

Independence isn't the utopian dream of a bunch of old misers, it a few thousand booksellers' reality, already joined up in Marelibri through the partners sites...

We are working today, in order to guarantee the freedom of the books professions tomorrow, selling old books is only a small part of the problem. Tomorrow, the book will be inevitably digital the professionals of books have an important part to take in these changes and we can't leave it all to the financial groups.

It is useless to to challenge Marelibri's president on a personnal disagreement (in order to tarnish - in a very rough way - Marelibri's image), bookseller from all over the world are interested in our suggestions and the debate is now wide open.

We have already proven that booksellers won't let go all the hope and help they can get and, on the contrary, a strenght is growing through the gathering of independent sites offered by Marelibri, and we'll have to count with this strenght for today. This is reality...

We won't stop opening perspectives so that ideas, books, words, whatever the changes we are going through, won't turn meaningless to definitely become cold inhuman merchandise.

We are proud to be at the initiative of this debate.

________

Si les livres avaient les mots pour le dire ....

L’indépendance ? De quoi s’agit il ? Il s’agit de défendre la liberté pour les libraires professionnels de vendre les ouvrages sans les surtaxes des groupes industriels profitant des techniques de l’internet pour exploiter les libraires, c’est donc aussi garantir pour les clients la possibilité d’acheter des livres le moins cher possible. (Après bien sur on peut parler de l’indépendance du pied et de la chaussure, mais ce n’est pas le même débat !)

Le métier de libraire est fragile ! On ne peut pas impunément le laisser à la libre concurrence des industriels et des trafiquants en tout genre : Que le meilleur gagne ! Cette démarche ne peut être émise que par un quelconque marchand sans aucun scrupule qui d’avance se frotte les mains, prêt à récupérer les morceaux....

L’indépendance n’est pas un rêve utopique de vieux grigous, c’est une réalité de plusieurs milliers de libraires déjà regroupés dans Marelibri à travers les sites partenaires...

Nous travaillons aujourd'hui à garantir pour demain la liberté des métiers du livre, la vente des livres anciens est un maillon de ce problème. Le livre sera demain inévitablement “numérique” les professionnels du livre ont une place importante à prendre dans ces changements et nous ne pouvons pas laisser le champ libre aux groupes financiers.

Il est inutile de provoquer le président de Marelibri sur un désaccord personnel (afin d’essayer - la manœuvre est évidente et grossière - de ternir l’image de Marelibri), les libraires dans le monde entier témoignent de l’intérêt pour nos propositions et le débat est maintenant largement ouvert.

La démonstration est déjà faite que les libraires n’oublierons pas “toute idée d’espoir et d’aide” et qu’au contraire à travers le regroupement des sites indépendants que propose Marelibri, se lève une force avec laquelle il faut dès aujourd’hui compter. C’est cela la réalité...

Nous ne cesserons d’ouvrir des perspectives pour que les idées, les livres, les mots, quelque soit les transformations que nous sommes en train de vivre, ne soient pas vidés de leurs sens pour n’être définitivement que des marchandises froides et inhumaines.

Nous sommes fiers d’être à l’initiative de ce débat.

Marelibri invites every independent professional site ! - frodo's toes

frodo's toes — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:47:06 +0200

I had a brick & mortar store in Hollywood in the 70's, and shut down for a number of reasons, (economics being only one of them), but continued in the business on a smaller scale via mail order, book malls and book fairs, with some success. When ABEbooks came along I jumped on the bandwagon, thinking:"What a great idea!". It WAS a great idea (the operative word here being "WAS") but, my oh my, how things have changed!!! I have always been careful to describe my books meticulously, perhaps to the point of overdescription, since I would rather miss a sale than have one returned as "not as described". Now, however, I see books described as: "a solid copy", or "in really good shape" et cetera. What the _)(*&^ is THAT supposed to mean??? I would love to see sellers required to accurately describe the books they offer (including CLEARLY stating that a book is an ex lib). Perhaps marelibri has an answer, and I, for one, am not going to "condemn without trial". The jury is still out, and the verdict is probably a significant time away, yet. Let's hope it is a positive one. Thanks for making an effort. Fred Dorsett

Marelibri invites every independent professional site ! - Gaël Beaudoin

Gaël Beaudoin — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:42:21 +0200

To shoobiwoo:

The post from "Un chat" was a joke I guess and not related to your post at all.

If you need evidence, just ask current partners about marelibri : Sales, people joining because of marelibri, more trust in our platforms thanks to marelibri, etc.

We represent more than 2 000 booksellers from the partners, and as such, do have more possibilities than each of us alone.

The fact we're discussing this, is, sort of, because we're speaking of marelibri. You wouldn't care about livre-rare-book, what it does, or its blog, etc.

We're not claiming we're revolutionizing book selling world. But I think we're making a difference, in the right direction. My point is : it's not hot air, neither bound to fail.

And about your previous post, I'd like to say that I agree with parts of it, but this is for an other post.
Sunny sunday here.
Have a nice day.

Marelibri invites every independent professional site ! - shabbiwaa

shabbiwaa — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:23:08 +0200

to Gaël Beaudoin:
Maybe you can prove whom the marelibri concept has already helped, as you state above...

Marelibri invites every independent professional site ! - shoobiwoo

shoobiwoo — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:08:23 +0200

Au chat: I did not say no one (and animal? blessed??). I just asked WHO? Maybe someone will.
Why shoud i prove my opinion? It is subjective and individual.
And listening to your cat i feel a bit sorry for her. She also seems not to have much fun and hoping for help. So could you please buy her a nice fish? (Pouvez vous acheter un bon pesque pour le pauvre chat?)
Or is she just speaking french?

Marelibri invites every independent professional site ! - Gaël Beaudoin

Gaël Beaudoin — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:08:31 +0200

A ce propos, je laisse la parole à mon chat, Boo :

Miiaaaouuu miaa ouhhh miaou miaaa miaaouuhhh !

Marelibri invites every independent professional site ! - Un chat

Un chat — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:51:09 +0200

Vous proclamez:

Aucun animal n'a été blessé dans la conception de ce site web !

Pouvez vous prouver cela?

Marelibri invites every independent professional site ! - shoobidoo

shoobidoo — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:29:22 +0200

ok, why not.
I was just astonished by Signore Malavasi’s big (almost fat) ‘professional‘ words and wanted to share my experience with his professionality. As he was immune against personal approach i liked to chose this public.
About the project: As long as you try to split the digital (book)world into professional and private booksellers it will not work. Who will chose a small ‘independant‘ boookplatform, when he can get a larger choice and better prices on a bigger ‘commercial‘ one. And what is an independant bookseller? You need books, you need customers, you need the internet (or whereever you sell). Finally you need even food - every day! I cannnot see any independance in the statements and plannings here. The more you try to be independant the more dependant you become, because you try to avoid to see the reality. Why not accept private sellers as normal competitors. A real professional will distinguish from them by better books, better descriptions and better service. But the better service will be only visible when your offer stands right next to theirs. And there are many professional booksellers too which go the onepenny-way. And no customer should be condemned when she tries to get her book as cheap as possible. How is an old professional independant bookseller shopping in daily life (when he is a brave human instead of an old heavy bookworm)? Does he choose the small and expensive shops to buy what he needs - on the street or on the internet. Don’t you like to buy a onepenny book when you need a crime novel for the beach? (In fact if you have to buy it at all, your stock maybe too small to survive anyway).
And i think it is rather the older booksellers who have difficulties with the change of times than the younger and their wish of independance is nothing but their unflexibility and disappointment. So before trying to buld up newer and newest internetplatforms out of grief that my books don’t sell i prefer to make the old stuff a little cheaper and look for new stuff which is not so much offered by others. As Gael Beaudoin writes ‘We're not doing this just for fun. We're doing something that we hope might help. And it already does help some of us.’(WHOM?), it is bound to fail any way. It sounds almost like praying for sadness: ’not just for fun ... we hope might help’. This rotten 2000 year old concept of lifeapproach will not bring any progress (not even too booksellerinas). But i understand well that it is especially promoted by Italy...
Before i become polemic again and S.M. calls for justice again i leave with the famous poor-boooksellers proverb: Don’t try to change the world but allow life to change you. And if you cannot resist at least have fun and forget all about hope and help.
Good morning.

Marelibri invites every independent professional site ! - Gaël Beaudoin

Gaël Beaudoin — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:56:42 +0200

To shubbiwoo:

So what is your concern regarding marelibri's approach ? What do you think we're doing wrong ? Or what do you think we could do better ? We're certainly accepting criticism when constructive and helping us improve, but up until now, I can't see your point.

We're not doing this just for fun. We're doing something that we hope might help. And it already does help some of us.

And yes, we can already say that with marelibri we're way bigger than each of us independently. Because of the media exposure it gets. Because people come to us asking questions. Because it creates discussion. Because we share experience and knowledge between several European countries and lots of people. Because the partners already have sales from marelibri (sometimes as much or more than from addall or bookfinder for example).

Marelibri is less than 7 months old. It has improved a lot since the first version, thanks to people sending comments and suggestions.

Marelibri invites every independent professional site ! - shubbiwoo

shubbiwoo — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:59:59 +0200

to Gaël Beaudoin:
Thinking that you are small makes you even smaller. And this seems a congregation of Smallies. Many smallies makes not even one BIG!
gotit?

Marelibri invites every independent professional site ! - shubidoo

shubidoo — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:54:21 +0200

-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Sergio Malavasi <sm@maremagnum.com>
An: schuckbook@aol.com
Verschickt: Fr., 18. Jul. 2008, 15:23
Thema: Blog on Marelibri

Dear Sirs,
You wrote

"Especially as he - Sergio Malavasi (or so) from marelibri used to cheat
and arrogantly treat booksellers that worked on marelibri.com earlier -
at least me"

You can obviously say that I treated you arrogantly (it's not true but
you can say it)
Yuo can't say I cheated you (it's not true and I'll go to a European
tribunal for it unless I have an excuse from you).
I paid you up everything.
If I have to send some more money to you, I'll pay immediately
But you can't say to everybody that I'm a criminal.
Best regards
Sergio Malavasi
.
.
.
My Excuse:

i did not say that you are a criminal. Cheating and criminal is not the same, but if you do not even know this...
When i had to get money from you for a booksale on maresomething.com you never answered my complaints (i hate this word but how to call it) for a very long time. Even though i asked your assistant to tell you. I finally left your 'organization' because of this obvious arrogance. More than ONE (1!) year later, when i wrote to you again you suddenly paid me as if the the booksale was just a week ago or so.
How would you call it to be treated like this by someone running a book-platform where you are selling bookies.
If this is not 'cheating' there may be 'better' expressions in your language which you certainly know ... (of course there are exciting german expressions too...)
And now you come as the Messiah of a better booksellersworld. (I thought 'we' are Pope at the moment).
Someone before wrote to sell books on ebay is 'giving them away', because he cannot sell them on the Dirty Dick Dangerous 3A's (why not 3D's).
Giving away? You mean you are forced to sell them too cheap to people who are just waiting for your generosity.
Sergio, i think you start collecting the right people for your revolution...
It always the same: Some booksellers try to create boundaries between them and the buyers and complain that books become too cheap and such things (i love to be expensive by the way). This simple arrogance as expressed above from far West may turn to revolutionary holiness in Southern Europe. So beware...
Hallelujah.

Sebastian Schuck, CO-LIBRI, Bremen.